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Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by on 2005-12-13 09:09:17
it isn't. it's an activity that created and made us all human. as a general principle, what makes a thing bad is when in the process you are harming yourself and people other than yourself.

courtesy of koumonji, salamat tol!

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by niwa on 2005-12-13 09:38:49
the 2 string.....of course not yet yes it is

Lol Tiem~

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by Kisuke on 2005-12-13 13:03:13 (edited 2005-12-14 13:10:38)
"Parents, religion, school, the government? Non of them are right. Sex is not bad, it just is.

Has anyone figured out what I mean when I say, "it just is".

War just is.
Love just is.
Sex just is."

I don't necessarily disagree with your position, but your argument is terrible. Saying something "just is" is perhaps one of the worst arguments there is for proving a point. So...just in the interest of good rhetoric, try to avoid that.

Sex is a natural act, and cannot be inherently bad because if it were, then why would we need it for the survival of our species? In other words, the physical instict of reproduction is necessary for procreation, and in most instances, recreation ^_^. The "bad" associated with sex is the socially unacceptable consequences that arise from performing this act either at the wrong time, with the wrong mate, or carelessly, with little regard for possible medical danger.

"Death destroys a man, the idea of death saves him." E.M Forster

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by Rukia on 2005-12-13 13:29:18
Nay.
It's the people that make it bad. Almost everything becomes bad once humans intervene with them. =/

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by desertranger on 2005-12-13 22:19:35
I understand what she means by "...just is." It's the natural progression of the world. I see it in the desert all the time. Coyote kills and eats a rabbit, a tourist seeing this says can't we teach the animeal to get along do they have to fight? Yes, for real and true they say crap like that. What can I say. that's nature, life, it just is... the natural events that make the world turn.

Kisuke, Rin doesn't just say that as an argument she says it as a point. It's the same things as saying Shit Happens.

As for good or bad that's up to you. I love sex, I love Rin and the two go together perfectly. Kinda like a PB@J.


Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by Kisuke on 2005-12-14 13:34:24
desertranger, nice try, but i'm going to crush your arguments.
First of all, I don't really care whether you understand what rin means by "...just is", because you didn't give a different approach to an argument in favor of the "just is". So, that's a mute point. Secondly, you say "life, it just is...the natural events that make the world turn." By that, are you saying that life is composed of the natural events that make the world turn, or are those two independent clauses with bad syntax? If the former, than i'd like you to tell me what are "unnatural" events? If everything is derived from the natural at some level, than is it truly possible for something to be unnatural? If the latter, than your point is no more valid than Rin's. It doesn't make a difference in your argument if you try to distinguish between and argument and a point because in this case they are almost synonymous.

Also, your analogy to "shit happens" is not valid either. That phrase is used, usually when something bad or strange occurs, to state that bad or strange things happen. Saying war just is says nothing about anything, other than that war exists. Insisting that one cannot determine that sex is bad because it "just is" is foolish, and is a waste of words. It adds no substance to the argument. If I were to say that murder "just is", I wouldn't be saying anything about murder other than that it exists and happens. Now if I were to say "murder, as abstract as it may be depending on the circumstances is rarely justified by society. However, ironically, society uses a different word for killing people in war. As a result, murder takes on a different connotation...". That would be an argument with direction and explanation.


You are throwing out a statement and saying that you are right because you are. Also, you provide no evidence of the sagacity of your premise. Your opponent reads your argument, and without direction or substance, is lost in the murk of poor rhetoric. While he is blundering about, you can claim that you understand, and that your opponent cannot argue the point validly without understanding your argument. "Potestas abiudico imprudentia".

"Death destroys a man, the idea of death saves him." E.M Forster

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by desertranger on 2005-12-14 14:11:08
So sue me. I just said I understood what Rin meant by that. I didn't say jackl about whether it was valid or not. But if you think abotu it phrases like Just is and Shit happens are applied to everythng good or bad. Makes no diff what you think. these things exist love, hate, sex, war. Yo can try to make all the sense out of it you want only I don't htink anyone ever will.

Love is the best example. Rin fell in love with me. Why? Ask her and she won't or can't give you a straight answer. I know, I've asked her and she says, "I just do". I'm sure she could go on romantically for quite awhile only thats all I really need to hear from her.


Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by »»Ran on 2005-12-15 05:54:49
@Lady_Rin: Well, our point of views differ from each other, my mind is in the Theological world, so I kinda think like that, you see. No offence to you, Lady_Rin.

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-12-15 18:17:53 (edited 2005-12-16 09:54:50)
How are you offending me? You're not. I understand how different people and cultures view sex. I know that there are cuiltures where if I gave my friend Wendy a romantic lover kiss I woud be put to death. There are also countries where if I do the same thing people will scream go check into a motel.

It's all relative to how you were brought up.


Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by Ninja-max on 2005-12-15 18:44:49
...T_T U must be seriously joking to think that sex is bad besides aids


Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by yuyue hirakiseira on 2005-12-16 06:05:51
it depends how you do sex
either you like it or not

never regret for what you have done!!!!

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by SpiritFightZ on 2005-12-16 06:38:04
sex is not a bad thing but rather a cool thing, u seek real enjoyment from sex only with the person u really loved.

Do wad u think is right, accept your past..............

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-12-16 10:01:44
That's not true Spirit. I know a couple of girls who don't want love or a relationship. They've been married, have kids and want nothing to do with men other than sex or an occasional date. One of them is a very close friend and basically all she wants, in her words, is to get laid, just fun with no commitment.


Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by SpiritFightZ on 2005-12-17 02:09:51
i have heard of many news or from web that people sex for fast money as they are poor but is that worth it,it was like giving away your body for money. If i'm in that person shoes i rather die than doing those things.

Do wad u think is right, accept your past..............

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by EmAn on 2005-12-17 02:16:51
some people do that coz they have no choice in getting money.

"It MaKes SenSE ThAt YoU TrY HaRd foR THe SaKe oF tHE PeRSoN YOu LoVE.."

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-12-17 07:53:29 (edited 2005-12-17 23:12:10)
Technically it is called prostitution and is said to be the oldest profession in the world. Women have sold and traded sex for money, favors and protection for as long as man has been able to think. Religion reviles prostitution and you can read about whores being stoned to death. On the other hand there are places in the world, even here in the US, where prostitution is legal. A very famous Madam, Hiedi Fleise has opened one with male prostitutes for women guests.


Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by Kisuke on 2005-12-17 16:25:12
I read an article about that in a recent Newsweek. However, the number of places in the U.S is very limited to certain counties in Nevada, nowhere else. Besides, the House of Representatives just unanimously passed legislation cracking down on prostitution, particularly the men who patronize the prostitutes, even more. It has yet to be seen how the senate deals with this legislation. You fail to note that not only does religion revile prostitution, but so does the majority of society.

"Death destroys a man, the idea of death saves him." E.M Forster

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by SpiritFightZ on 2005-12-18 05:14:57
if i not wrong, sex industry in US is the largest in the world and that free sex is the most common in US and nothing is done to it.

Do wad u think is right, accept your past..............

Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by lady_rin on 2005-12-18 09:08:36
What is free sex? I remember Ranger telling me about free loves inthe late 60s early 70s only he said that was't free either.

The blanket statement that the sex industry in the US is the largest int he world is incorrect. The honor of that, if it can be called such, goes to Russia at the moment.

SpiritFightZ what does the sex industry include besides porn and prostitution? I have g look at that.


Re: Is Sex bad?!
Link | by Kisuke on 2005-12-18 10:48:08
The U.S. is commonly portrayed as being the country with the loosest morals, while most of our time spent is actually argueing over morality and its derivations.

"Death destroys a man, the idea of death saves him." E.M Forster

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