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Re: Gundam 00
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on 2007-10-17 18:12:03 (edited 2007-10-17 18:20:01)
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Well, the weapons used in the other Gundam series arent lasers per se. They are particle beams, not necessarily photons. I think they are even theoretically possible. Lasers would be possible as weapons, too, especially with a nuclear power source the size of a fridge (original Gundam tech) or really efficient solar energy (Gundam 00 tech.) EDIT: What if the 00 is a reference to the old Gundam series since when you say the date, you say double o eighty three or whatever. I got the idea from searching Gundam 00 on the music database.
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by thunderkiss
on 2007-10-17 19:33:15
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| It is a reference to the original Gundam series. If you watched episode 1, you will see a Gundam figure similar to the original RX-78 Gundam. |
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Re: Gundam 00
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on 2007-10-17 21:03:29 |
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I did see that. I expect well see it again later on as a backup mobile suit ala Strike Rouge.
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Re: Gundam 00
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by thunderkiss
on 2007-10-17 22:48:03
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Anyone wonder who might GN-004 might be? GN-001 = Exia GN-002 = Dynames GN-003 = Kyrios GN-004 = ? GN-005 = Virtue Expect for a new protagonist/antagonist on that one I bet. |
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Re: Gundam 00
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on 2007-10-17 23:57:27 |
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Maybe its the RX-78 look-alike... or yeah, an enemy one.
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Re: Gundam 00
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on 2007-10-19 00:22:54 |
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Hmmm I have high hopes for this new gundam series, episode 1 was admittedly a little disappointing, but it has a lot of potential x3 IMO, Yun Kouga was a great choice for taking gundam in a new direction, I was getting tired of seeing SEED and SEED: Destiny character designs... As for L'arc'en~ciel doing the opening... I think the studio had better choices (gasp, or maybe bringing TMR back for another go?). Dunno, maybe the opening will grow on us? :|   |
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Re: Gundam 00
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on 2007-10-19 00:57:03 (edited 2007-10-19 00:57:45)
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It has a bit on me already. I already got the intro here on this site and have been listening to it all day on the way home from school. But it certainly isnt TMR... its not as upbeat. Id like another Invoke or Ignited type opening. Something with a burning soul!!! (picture Anime Tenshou (Lucky Star... watch this if you havent seen it (or if you have but want to see them all together) Anime Tenchou compilation) saying that...)
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Re: Gundam 00
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by thunderkiss
on 2007-10-19 04:23:45
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| I wanted the opening G Gundam style if you don't know what kind of OP G Gundam has. |
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Re: Gundam 00
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by tripsangel
on 2007-10-19 06:12:20
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Well, the weapons used in the other Gundam series arent lasers per se. They are particle beams, not necessarily photons. I think they are even theoretically possible. Lasers would be possible as weapons, too, especially with a nuclear power source the size of a fridge (original Gundam tech) or really efficient solar energy (Gundam 00 tech.) (unquote) lol YAY we gets to talk about reality and POWER!!! YAYS... ok lesson 1... beam weapons are comprised of ..dun dun dun dunn Minosvky particles.. minosvky particles also power the robots of the U.C era.. and GN particles are really M particles just with a renaming.. MUHAHAHA... M particles are artificially created by man by using heliem 3.. (which does exist but just like gundam we don't have alot on earth) thats why we import it from dun dun dunn JUPITER!!!!.. thus explaining alot from u.c gundam... and saying that we could possibly make it in reality!!! YAYS... beam weapons and giant robots!!! yays... go read wikipedia's thing on minosvky particles... MUHAHAHA |
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Re: Gundam 00
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on 2007-10-19 10:41:22 |
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Yes, I know that in Gundam they use Minovsky particles. I know M particles dont exist, but that doesnt mean beam weapons will never be a reality, just not using M particles. I also know that Gundams are unpractical for warfare. Im just saying that as far as Gundam is realistic, the original one was actually more realistic in some areas (beam sabers are definitely 99.999% impossible) than 00. For one, the Gundams in 00 just fly! They dont even explain it.
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Re: Gundam 00
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by tripsangel
on 2007-10-19 15:05:38
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umm they do explain it ... its the same thing as the minovsky drive in Victory gundam's V2 gundam.... see the glowing particles leave the back of the suit? thats the explanation muhaha... and yes M particles might be possible i didn't say there impossible... i just said its pretty hard to find out since there an't alot of helium 3 around... so theres no way to prove it wrong..yet.. and beam sabers are possible since you just angle the darn particle emitter towards itself like a flashlight.. and it does the rest on its own... unpractical? ...you try taking out a tank without one... its also pretty good against air weapons too... (its the high tech targeting system and the fact that its pretty tall too) the reason why some real robot series have giant robots are because there anti tank units... and they kinda replace the tank after awhile.. there just so darn fast too... and can be loaded with lots of weapons.. and they can be easyly converted for space aswell.. so now the robot is the ALL TARRAIN VEHICLE... any other arguments? MUHAHAHA.... (i spent my last year of high school learning about giant robots, gundams, space colonys, and spaceships..muhahaha) |
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on 2007-10-19 16:41:58 (edited 2007-10-19 16:42:47)
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LOL so did I! I spent the last two years really into sci-fi (not that I wasnt before, but only in the last two-three years have I been learning more about the science behind it) and reading about colonies, spaceships, and mobile suits. I definitely am pro space colony. We need to expand into space and become a galactic civilization. From what I gathered, though, giant robots cost too much to make and need crazy power supplies. As for battles in space, as of right now, it costs millions to take a few pounds into space. How much would it cost to take like 90 tons of steel into space? At our tech level, we arent getting Gundams soon. We may eventually be able to solve those problems. As for M particles, those arent happening anytime soon either... or at all. At least, they dont even explain it on Wikipedia. They just say a reaction with the He-3, but not what type of reaction or anything. He-3 is rare, but there have been tests done on it, so its not completely new territory. Luckily, if we need it, we can get it on the moon and dont have to go to Jupiter to get it. One last thing, I can understand the space battle part and the ground battle part, but I dont see how a Gundam can just fly into the air... I mean, the "thruster backpack" idea is kinda cliche. LOL
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by tripsangel
on 2007-10-19 21:12:22 (edited 2007-10-19 21:26:22)
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i always like seeing the thruster pack its always a nice feature... (see EX-S gundam for thruster pack size godlyness) ok ....heres how the V2 gundams M drive works.. it sends alot of M particles out the back of it really fast... .. it even makes wings when it does.. course it doesn't need the "wings" to actually propel it.. which is why the 00 MS can fly without having pretty wings... yet the V2 had a kinda V shaped body with "winglets"? so the M particles are forced into looking like wings.. while the 00 MS don't have "winglets" they just have... a sphere.. looking thingy.. that can thrust the M particles Left Right Down Up or Back(forward movement) and there might be something that propels it backwards too.... so thats my theory anyways... i hope its true too... PRO COLONY!!!! ..what kind of colony? ... (i like the o'neil cylinder design.. old school gundam lol) cheap space flight.. yep thats not gonna come out soon unfortunatly your right.. stick a nuclear power source on a space shuttle give it a "thruster" that can run off shear power and you could have cheap space flights.. right? did you know that the GM runs off of a nuclear power supply?... thats why it can do things lol... (and it still stinks? wow? how did that happen?) we could build a ms anytime ... its not really that hard (for us at our tech lvl) the main problem is convincing somebody to let us build a 18 meter tall robot with a sub machine gun with bullets the size of beds, for the purpose of... ____ .. blowing up tanks???? ("why build the 18 meter tall robot? we now have Bazookas that can fire from buildings and there 99.8% cheaper") course i'd love to see a labor sometime soon at least... (patlabor mobile police) edit: forgot something while i was ranting... gundamu 00 SPACE ELEVATOR... the japanese are at it again... the #1 worst idea to get into space cheap... the gundam could touch the side of the elevator and cause it to just rip wide open because of the forces being applied to it.. in order for it to stand perfectly still etc etc.. you'd have to have like the BEST engineer of all time.. cus that thing could break at any moment.. besides that WHAT IF THE ELEVATOR BROKE WHILE IT WAS GOING UP!!!.. it takes a day to get to the top... "oh now i gotta wait a week for somebody to show up" via the stairs... "or i could climb the stairs...[looks up] nvm.. its tall, at least they have vending machines on every other floor yay [little flag waving]" ...i'm being overdramatic i think, but still..... i don't like it... |
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| It's out haha...1st episod was great cant wait for the next^^ |
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Re: Gundam 00
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episode 2 is olredi out ^.^ 
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Re: Gundam 00
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on 2007-10-23 09:01:20 |
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I'm a little confused as to why real life physics are being applied to gundam... isn't that the purpose of science-fiction? It's surprising that sound hasn't even been mentioned. |
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Re: Gundam 00
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on 2007-10-23 16:43:58 (edited 2007-10-23 16:51:51)
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@mina, science fiction is actually pushing real life science and possibilities to their logical extreme. If if it doenst have real life physics, then its probably a fantasy. In that sense, I guess, Gundam falls a bit into fantasy, too, what with the imaginary Minovsky particle. @tripsangel, Hmm, I agree with almost everything you said. I personally like the O'neils, too. I can just imagine the earth curving up in the distance instead of down like here. What I dont agree with is that space elevators are a bad idea. They are actually a very good idea. See, a space elevator isnt built like a building. You dont put a brick over another brick until its done. Its kinda hard to explain quickly, but wikipedia has a nice article on it. Ive discussed this idea with a friend (hes been into science fiction for years and is now a general science/physics teacher) and weve run over some of the math (not too much, I suck at math) and a lot of the general ideas. What I mean is, Ive looked into the idea (and did a presentation on it for chemistry as a possible use of carbon nanotubes) and it seems like a very good idea. Once built, sending material into space would be cheap as hell (compared to now) and more companies would set up profitable space businesses like mining or freighting. Maybe even vacationing. As for safety, there wouldnt be stairs, but if the elevator stopped moving, there would be ways to get the people off there. Off the top of my head, I suggest both packs of air and parachutes if the elevator isnt too high. Since it would be built over the ocean, it would make a last resort escape. Helicopters or space ships, depending on how far the elevator got before stopping, would obviously work much better for most people. Anyway, that was off the top of my head. The people working on designing space elevators (there are quite a few groups working on it, too) probably have much better ideas. I guess my point is that space elevators arent a bad idea at all. They are easier to accomplish in the short run and a good stepping stone to space colonies (though planetary colonies like Mars or Luna might be accomplished without a space elevator.) EDIT: The elevator would be pulled taught by the anchor placed on planetary orbit. Believe me, it would take a LOT to get that thing to move. You need a good engineer, but not to get the elevator to be still and straight. As for a Gundam, well, maybe we could make giant robots, but I doubt we can make flying giant robots... and even then, well yeah, if one hit the elevator, it might fall, but so would a building or something if a Gundam hit it. You just have to be careful.
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Re: Gundam 00
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by tripsangel
on 2007-10-24 09:17:40
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@alex; ....we should really look into VF-1 Valkyries... the world would be a different place...they can work on current fuels.. muhahahahahaha and there hi-movement fighter jets so theres even a reason for them lol ok i believe you.. you are vary convincing... yet i still don't like the idea of a space elevator a whole lot... mars colonys are a bit far.. we can't do anything there currently because of the speed in which we go in space is still relatively slow...... and if we had sub light speeds.. life would stink (see gunbuster anime for example) if we could go speed of light or space folding or gravity teleportation those are probably better idea's of traveling across the stars... ...why did i just start talking about this?... meh.. @everyone; isn't episode 3 out yet?... |
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Re: Gundam 00
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on 2007-10-27 12:09:27 (edited 2007-10-27 12:12:10)
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I havent found a torrent yet. Yeah, Mars is far away, but we have to get there some time, right? I agree, I wish for FTL travel so much, but our best hope at the moment are wormholes, and you have to get one end of them to your destination at slower than light speeds anyways... or Alcubierre drives, but there are a lot of problems with that one, even if they are technically possible. The VF-1 idea would be cool. It might work as a transforming robot. I havent seen much of that series, though its on my to watch list.
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Re: Gundam 00
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by appleseed_12
on 2007-10-27 20:32:41
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| There still a lot of unproven physics theories going on with regards to spacecraft propulsion. but since the setting of Gundam 00 is 24th century, i guess we still had a long way to go before it can become a reality. haha. |