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That's pretty sleazy all right, sturm. I guess you know better than to "help" that guy again tho'. Unless, you dont mind being copied...but I know that I'd mind! And what's up with the stupid teacher? He obviously doesn't give a rat's @55 whether or not his (or her, you didn't say) students learn anything.  |
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by night_link
on 2005-08-30 09:52:06
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| That freaking sucks sturm. There are some people in the world that you just have to shrug off. Help doesn't mean the work is done for you. It only means to assist. That guy and the teacher are pretty much set for their life I guess. Too slow to look at the whole situation. |
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ok u wanna hear something depressing im a junior and i got kicked from advanced math to regular math because of one point and so im like w/e. so today we had our first test this is how it goes u have 30 min to complete the test okay so itsa pretty simple rigth i mean its just fractions the guy behind me HEY CANU HELP ME the teacher amazingly doesnt notice the large yell me YEA SURE Y NOT ok he takes my test IN FRONT OF THE TEACHER AND COPIES IT the teacher goes excuse me ur not supposed to do other homework during a test here lets just give it basck to the person in front of you and u vcan finish it late ....WHAT????
"Empires rise and fall, but evil is eternal"
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by night_link
on 2005-08-29 23:15:47
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| I'm sorry for my comments then minnie. But my comments were directed at nightmare even though anyone can read it. But I think if you wanted to comment to nightmare, you needn't really read anything from me on this thread. |
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I just got so much time thats why I went to this thread. My entry is not actually that valuable, just want to say my opinions... Nightmare do got so many fans here hehehe!!!!!!!!!!! Old man kie do have a very long replies, my eyes got tired in reading it. I just wanna say my insights about life. For me, life is like an entrance exam where in all the things that you have done, you are doing, and will still be doing will all be judge after you die. Commiting suicide is bad because killing yourself is just like murdering. only God has the right to take away life and everything that is happening in our lives are all test if we are the right one to be with God in heaven. Remember that the reason why God created us is because He wanted to have someone to be with Him to accompany him in His lonelyness.
smile smile...
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Hey, that might actually work! It would depend on the situation though. Nightmare's the only one in the position to be able to judge what he should do...all we can do is offer advice and support. Whatever you decide, we're all behind you nightmare! Oh, and Evanescence? They rox :) I have serious trouble spelling their name right tho', I have to re-type it like five times every time. |
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Try bluffing your way out. Like saying if they dont give you some space you will leave the house when you turn 18 and join a satanist cult.  Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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ill be the first one to admit that they have some problems...but i really dont want to get them in serious trouble with the authorities...even though they are overprotective jerks, i still love them very much, and they have provided me with a good home, food, shelter, cloathing, and other things. see, there not Bad people...there just overprotective...TO THE EXTREEM!!! my life is falling apart as it is...i dont want them to take my parents away from me...it would only make things worse......  |
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| Yeah, I can understand grudges, I still have a grudge against this 'person' in my parent's house who other people would call my 'brother'. I cant stand him. But yeah, your parents have serious problems, if you do chuck a tantrum, tell them in their face that they have problems and should see a psychiatrist. Yeah, now that you said it, I think it's true what you say that coz you are the only child they got so they are being overprotective. But to me, they dont see you as their child, a human being who needs to learn and grow but their possession, their dreams. They got their wish of getting a kid, ie. You, but they went about it in a wrong way totally. If you could possibly run away, go to your grandmother's place, and get your grandmother to tell the welfare department about your situation. If your relatives, teachers, and yourself wont get to your parents, I'm sure the authorities will. |
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first off, they let me go to the game!!! it was AWSOME!!! (even though we lost...) by now, you know the drill... eeekar: yep, im from the US, and yep, my spelling sucks. my parents seem to think that if they let me out of the house, ill be come a drug addict, or a drinker, or a smoker. because thats what they see on TV (BLAST that infernal box!!) Seki: you are being FAR from rude, my friend...you've hit the nail on the head! my aunt and uncle live in arazona, so they wouldnt be able to help...my mother has a HUGE gurge agenst her brother (my uncle) because she believes that he abandonded her so she would have to take care of grandfather all by herself. my grandmother on the other hand could help alot...but mom doesen't like her either...all in all, dont be sorry, its true! Luc: do you have ANY idea how hard it would be for me to get in contact with the temple? its not exactly within walking distance... my parents said that i can go to any collage in the immidate area...i plan to go to either ITT Tech or Lawrance Tech. and go to schoolcraft collage for my Japaniese classes. as for my parents having another kid, no. they were trying to have children for a long time, and were thinking of addopting, but then i came...my theory is that sience they wanted a child so bad...they dont want to loose me, but by keeping me pinned up. its killing me. its loose loose. MuzikPreeze: been there, tried that...it doesent work, thye simply CANNOT be reasoned with. but thanks for your imput! i like new voices on this thread...ive heard that Saikano is very good...ive got it on DVD, but havent watched it yet...im finishing up Card Captor Sakura, then Last Exile, Then Saikano, then Paranoia Agent. ill get tot it when i get to it! old crow: good advice! waiting is just about all i can do at this point...ive been looking for an anime club around here, but as you said, the chances of me being able to go are slim...and yes girls are better friends for me because they can be more sympathetic...but girls nowadays are mostly sluts...and you cant talk to a slut about ANYTHING. makes me sick! i look forward to more imput from you! thank you all once again! one question, have you ever listend to a band called "Evanescence"? there pritty cool. |
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Wow nightmare, your situation sucks big-time. I'd say "talk to them", but if it was that simple, I have a feeling that your problem would be solved by then. Plus, a bunch of other people have already said that. So, having said that, my advice is to just wait it out. You're 16, so in a few years you'll be able to leave for college, where your parents won't have nearly as much control over you. In the meantime, you can try talking and pressuring your parents, but while you might win a few skirmishes, I doubt you'll be able to get your freedom from them if they're THAT neurotic. This solution has worked for me in other situations...I'm a very passive person, I just kind of hang back and wait for things to work out; it's surprising how many problems solve themselves if you don't pick at them. I've never had a problem this big though, and I would NOT recommend this approach for schoolwork...believe me, I speak from experience. As for a social life--well, meeting people will not solve many problems, since most high schoolers are immature jerks. It's SO much better in college... It sounds like you found out a little about this when you went to the dance. High school dances (and other functions) are black pits of despair. Of course, I can't dance, so maybe I'm prejudiced... But really, I'd rather be in a snake pit than on a dance floor. I didn't even go to my school's prom. If you want to meet interesting people, I'd seek out other anime fans, although that won't be easy with all the parental restrictions you have. Something you could do would be to attend an anime convention, although I have a feeling that your parents would never let you go to such an unsupervized event... But anyway, anime fans tend to be nice people, I'm not sure why. Anyway, I'd also try to make friends with girls instead of guys, since they tend to be nicer, in my opinion (yes, I AM a guy...). I can sympathize with your depression, if not your situation. My problems were mostly to do with being an antisocial loser rather than any outside influences... I was probably one of the lonliest kids at my high school, but over the last few years I've been able to make some friends following the above advice. I just thought of something awful...your parents might not want to let you leave for college, they might want you to live at home and commute to a nearby school. If that happens, the only thing I can think of is to threaten to leave home and get a job somewhere...you'd be 18 by then, so you could legally do that. You might be able to crash at a friend's place until you get your feet under you...in fact, that might not be a bad idea for you now--see if you can stay at a friend's place for a few days. I have trouble seeing how your parents could deny this, although I'm sure they could think of something. I wish I could be of more help... |
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by MuzikPreeze
on 2005-08-26 21:09:08
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Well nightmare, think about it this way: *****(don't do this at home kids)***** 1.Worst case scenario) Why don't you slaughter your parents, loot the house, skip town, become a druggy (or pimp) and live your life 'till you (eventually, we all get shot. -moe from simpsons) Will you THEN be happy cuz you can have drugs to overcome and escape from reality? Will you THEN be happy because noone tells you what to do? 2.Second worst case) Why don't you just suicide right now huh? ****(Whew, glad that's over)****** -Reflect then, on #1. Will you truly be happy? You can finally be free. Truth is that we are all free when we were born. We just abide by rules because it keeps us safe. That's what "society" and "laws" are for; they keep us from being dead (to the extend of the law and "faireness"). Age doesn't matter! This sh** happens to anyone and anywhere. Age 16? 55? Truth is, we don't even know if we will live to see tomorrow, but are you afraid? Who cares about tomorrow? Just live for today, just enjoy yourself for today and make that everyday. -Reflect then on #2. You parents, friends, family etc... what do they think? Truth is when you are suffering, they see it too but they don't know what to do and when you don't speak up, they ignore you because they don't feel like it's their place to do stuff about it. (It's kind of like shouting and asking money on the street, you become more successfull if you ask 1 person directly then if you just shouted around and everyone ignores you.) If you die, you suffer, your parents suffer, your friends suffer, your teachers, students, whatever. Heck, maybe there's even someone who loves you for who you are but is too shy to talk to you about it that you will NEVER get to know cuz you died. You parents might be sad because they notice your sadness and deal with it the best way they know how.(By stuffing you in a room expecting you to study up then you won't have time to be suffering from emotions.) Here's a though: if they are so worried about you suffering from emotions and the outside world (cuz after reading plenty of your threads it tells me your parents are overprotective of your yet they love you nonetheless) why aren't your home-schooled? You can be yet another "40-Year-Old-Virgin". Plz Plz PLZ!!! just try to COMMUNICATE(yes, that is the one thing that MIGHT save this human race since we have this magnificent ability and yet we are only using it 1/2 the time more or less) TALK to your friends seriously, go see a councilor(sp?) TALK WITH YOUR PARENTS MORE OFTEN. Let them know that you aren't doing the SH** they see on T.V. (because U.S.A. is fear capital a-O-K.), they might be just scared. To knock down these walls, share your thoughts with REAL PEOPLE! it's hard but it's certainly more effective than just posting messages cuz you can't look at us STRAIGHT in the eye. Here's some things that I'd like to say: - 㾠ㄠ㫠進 ã‚ ï¼ [got this from Fullmetal which I think is an awsome anime] (I think it means just move on with your life in general. try looking at it that ways) it doesn't matter what happens, just keep moving on. - Freedom is always there. Ever since you were born you had the choice to do whatever you wanted.(You might disagree since being a baby means that you MUST rely on someone or something to survive and that is true, but you could probably just tip yourself off someone's arms and fall head first into a concrete floor and kill yourself without realizing what you've done). THE CHOICE IS ALWAYS THERE. The price of freedom of course, is consequences. [Law of equivalent trade] (also from FMA since it's so cool.) If you wanted to learn more about death, watch animes like: Saikano, Fullmetal Alchemist, or read Ai-Ren. They'll keep you living a bit longer(kind of a bad joke, sorry.) |
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Nightmare, i dont mean to be rude but your parents are definitely CONTROL FREAKS. I said about parents' hypocrisies before and your scenario is exactly it. Your parents says it's for your own good but what's really going on is that your parents wants to control you so they feel good themselves. You definitely should read Celestine Prophecy coz it explains what happens in your kind of situation. And wtf?! YOUR OWN GRANDMOTHER?! is your mother on bad terms wif her mother? And you cant go to the bball games coz there will be lots of people?! err... the WORLD and the SOCIETY has lots of people!! What are your parents thinking? that they can keep you like this forever?! But yeah, lucky your friend's parents found out a little. And now that your grandmother and aunt and uncle kinda knows I think they would start getting your parents to let go. Can you contact your aunt and uncle or grandma without letting your parents know? Coz if you dont wanna talk to a teacher at least talk to your aunt/uncle/grandma coz they are your relatives and personally they would be the 1st kind of people I would turn to. All in all, your parents are control freaks, and sorry to say this but they sound like they have problems themselves. |
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uhm, you said that you're from the USA, right? I don't mean to be rude... It's just that you're english is kinda off... Sorry... Well, at least you're parents are THINKING about it. It's better than a direct 'no'. I kinda have the impression that they're keeping you from the 'outside world'... Do you have any idea why? Maybe something that happened in the past? 
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It looks like its now my turn to write a long one… I apologies. Ill do my replies first, then I have 2 stories… Seki: thanks for the books! But I don’t think ill tell my teachers…my friends will be enough right now… Lucian: Thank you for the books! Ill ad them to my list! I live in a white community, a normal suburb, not to rural, or modern. Most people are catholic, but there are some Jews and even a few Hindu. I live in a nice Ranch style house on a half acre lot. I hope to one day inherit this house and raze my own family here…if I ever get a wife and if I don’t go insane first. eeekaR: my most humble apologies, I’m very sorry, it liked so much like a K. I am truly glad that I have you guys to talk to, it helps a lot. The thing about the teachers is that I just don’t want to get them involved, my friends parents are starting to get involved…which brings me to my stories… #1 my uncle Jim and aunt pat are in town, so we all went with my grandmother for some pizza. After we ate, they were all going over grandmother’s house to play cards…and I wanted to come too. But when I asked, my parents said that my grandmother wouldn’t take care of me…MY OWN GRANDMOTHER!!! MY MOTHER’S MOTHER!!! She loves me more than they do…but when grandma protested, they marched me out of the restaurant…more chains, always more chains… #2 my school, Detroit catholic central, has a reputation for having an awesome football team. And with the new school came a new stadium. The opining game at that new stadium is tomorrow night. I asked my mom if I could go…â€NO, you’re not going! Theres going to be a lot of people there!†so ALL of my friends (like 3, but still) are going, but not me…mike’s dad found out about it and personally called my parents, now they are “thinking about itâ€. So ill let you know how it goes. It seems that now, outside people are trying to help me pull off the chains…I suppose that’s a good thing…right? |
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uhm, my nickname is eeekar... not eeekay... I guess the font I used made the 'r' look like a 'y'... Anyway... Nightmare, I think that it's good that you release what you're feeling inside... I guess this thread is a psychoanalysis of sorts for you. well, I think that you really should tell a friend about what's going on. Especially the lock issue. That way, if your parents do lock you up, someone will probably know what happened and they might help you.
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Since we are on the topic of helpful books, try these: Celestine Prophecy, and its sequel The Tenth Insight very good, i REALLY recommend it. Then there is nothing like Star Wars (not the fight and love scenes, but the more serious philosophical-like talk) |
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| Well, since you live in the states, then you definitely should talk to your home room teacher about your problem. I'm sure they would help especially when you tell them your parents threatened to lock your door. Since you are Polish, I thought that things in schools might be a little different if you were living in Poland. Coz sometimes the teacher might end up siding wif your parents against you. But yeah, since you are in the states, go and talk to your teacher. Here in Oz, the teachers really dont give a crap much abt students but if my parents did what you did, I would definitely go and tell my teacher. |
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WOW, i leave for school for one day and you guys make 13 posts!!! well, im grateful! more people should be jumping into this subject! as per usuall, ill go down the list here we go!... Chick-yasha: i was wondering when you were going to comment, but we HAVE been talking about it alot on e-mail...but thank you for the imput! and its ok if you want to post stuff from my e-mails if you think it will contribute to the discussion! eeekay: yes i am a guy! and im glad we could enlighten you to the fact that look ARE NOT everything to a guy (well, not guys like us) yes, you are VERY lucky! and im sorry if we make you depressed... Ookami: thanks for yopu imput! and i think i speek for all of us when i say that im glad that God is holding your homisidal tendincys at bay! Lucian: first off, try to keep the posts a little shorter ok? anyway, i really dont mind the advice they give me now, it helps alot... i think ill take jomunga's advice and rely on my friend, she knows me better than any shrike could ever know. id burn a hole in my keyboared trying to reply to EVERYTHING you said, so ill just say this..thank you for your imput, its all good! Seki: i live in Livonia Michigan USA its approximetly 5 miles from detroit. i kinda like it here, i can immagin what i would think if i could get out of this hell hole! but i think ill take your advice, but in a different way... (chick-yasha already knows what im talking about) but yes, i have no intention of giving up...not yet anyway. |
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Its good to see new people in this thread. I'd give up on the therapist, phychiatrist idea. Ive seen 2, both horrible, and a waste of money. Nightmare, id stick with that 1 friend that cares about you problem, but dont bother her to much about it. The only thing a phychiatrist can do of use is perscribe medication. Advice for Ookami: New high school equals new start, you may find friends who also like Weiss Kreuz. And if you care about your parents praise, try getting praise for things other than grades. Lucian I like the "A good teacher does not show the way, but rather hints and points at it." quote. Jomunga eats your avatars. |