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Re: Naruto manga-Plot Twist?
Link | by devils-angel on 2012-03-11 11:19:10
I think at this point, Naruto could own Sasuke. Then again if Tobi dies, I'd imagine him giving Sasuke the Rinnegan!
Naruto's an idiot and Sasuke could even have a chance of winning simply cause he's a smart ninja,
but Naruto just has too many tools of OP and Sage mode helps him against Sasuke's Sharingan.

Tobi wouldn't want Sasuke against him then again Sasuke might just wonder off to do his own thing.
Right now he's actually with Itachi and I'm sure one Edo Tensei runs out we'll see some last words between the brothers. Something like Naruto and his parents. T_T

With Bleach I mean the war can temporarily end, so the Shinobi forces will win this battle, but not the war.
Everyone heals up and can recover and prepare for a future attack or something, but it depends where the manga goes and right now that's only an option.

But I think if Tobi dies he'll give Sasuke the Rinnegan, I definitely see him having it in the future.
In order to beat Naruto I think he'd need it, it's the best kekkai genkai after all.

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Re: Naruto manga-Plot Twist?
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2012-03-11 12:42:21
I don't know if Tobi would give Sasuke the Rinnegan. Especially since we know now
he's not actually Madara, he may not have any legit ties to Uchiha to even want
Sasuke to succeed in his goal of destroying Konoha. Not to mention, Tobi has been
using and manipulating Sasuke since the start. I don't see that kind've relationship
having Tobi's last act before death, to give Sasuke the Rinnegan.

And Naruto is crazy OP with everything he has now. I really think he developed too
quickly with his Chakra-Mode to full Tailed-Beast control and what not.

Oh. Thaaat's what you mean. I could see that happening, in fact I think something
like that is the most likely outcome at this point. Seeing Tobi maybe drawing back
now that Naruto has developed as far as he has.

Though I'm hoping we get to have a few chapters of Sasuke & Itachi, and potentially
Itachi v. Kabuto(MARUUUU) or even Sasuke & Itachi v. Kabuto(marumaru) that gets to
see a lot of development with the brothers, and maybe some well-done plot devices.


Re: Naruto manga-Plot Twist?
Link | by devils-angel on 2012-03-11 21:48:23
I don't think Sasuke even really knows who Madara is, he only wants to avenge his brother and restore the clan in his honor.
I wouldn'y say Tobi doesn't care about that, more of he wants to recreate a new world under his power to create "peace".
Sasuke can help attain that by destroying Konoha or anyone who gets in the way, I doubt Sasuke can lay a finger on Tobi though.
Tobi was able to get rid of Amaterasu before when Itachi casted it through Sasuke also Tobi knows every move Sasuke has.
Tobi also fought Yondaime, he's way above Hokage level, although Sasuke's strong and has the EM, he's not near Tobi yet, but I doubt they'd do battle in this point in time
also a while back Sasuke also said he's only joining Akatsuki for his own reasons so Sasuke probably doesn't like Tobi either, they're both using each other.

So far though I don't see Naruto beating Tobi yet cause he's still having issues with the other bijuu.
He's going to run out of Bijuu mode by the time he'll actually face Tobi face to face so we'll see.
Killer Bee is somehow still managing, he's been insane lately, also note Naruto won't be able to enter bijuu mode after this. +1 Sasuke.

However I will say Sasuke needs the Rinnegan to stand up with Naruto. And with half the EM in one eye and the Rinnegan in the other, friggin' boss.

I don't think we'll get too many episodes with Itachi and Sasuke cause we had that nice flashback before Itachi died, or when we first saw Sasuke's Mangekyou awaken which is a cool scene.
It's definitely going to be emotional, I'm sure a lot of people are gonna cry again like the first flashback scene.

I hope Itachi puts Kabuto in an eternal Tsukiyomi, to suffer eternally... lol.

After that though the war's going to change dramatically.

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Re: Naruto manga-Plot Twist?
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2012-03-14 12:41:51
I still don't see Sasuke getting the Rinnegan. I could maybe see it from something
else, but not Tobi. We'll also need to see what Sasuke can do now, with his EMS,
to understand the power he now has compared to Naruto.

AND AFTER THE LATEST CHAPTER, We may get to see that next week and so on. Sasuke
and Itachi v. Kabuto. I had pretty much forgotten that Sasuke hadn't met Kabuto
since he took some of Orochimaru's cells into him, so that was interesting. I
also think that for being so evil and wanting to destroy Konoha, Sasuke is being
portrayed pretty casually. Not dark like he was at the Kage Summit.

That's either a bit of a slip up writing-wise, or Sasuke isn't so corrupt with the
EMS, or simply being around Itachi has him reverting to a calmer past self.

Interesting that killing Kabuto wouldn't end the Edo Tensei. I don't remember that
being mentioned before, but it leaves for an interesting battle between the
Brothers and Kabuto. Makes things a bit more tricky and surely, entertaining.

Itachi plans to use Tsukiyomi to control him, so let's see how that works out.


Re: Naruto manga-Plot Twist?
Link | by devils-angel on 2012-03-14 14:18:34
To me personally, Sasuke would need the Rinnegan to beat Naruto. His EMS is beast, but it wouldn't affect Naruto,
also genjutsu is utterly useless against a jinchuuruki who's connected with his bijuu.
Also note the Rinnegan is stronger than the Sharingan and is considered the 'ultimate eye'.

Sasuke's confused now that he's met Itachi who's disappointed in him so emotionally, he's a bit confused and shaken. I expected that.
Konoha's pretty much f#cked up right now anyways, somehow those two elders are going to remain alive after all of this (maybe...).

That's no slip-up, I think that's intentional.

It never said Itachi was going to use Tsukiyomi to control Kabuto, plus that's not what Tsukiyomi does.
I think Sasuke can control Kabuto since his Sharingan abilities relate more to controlling people. We've already seen it before I think when he fought Killer Bee.

Sidenote this but about Kabuto and his snake cloak in NSGen, his ultimate is wrong since Itachi is a part of it so that's a mistake by CC2.

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Re: Naruto manga-Plot Twist?
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2012-03-14 17:41:35
In the translation I read it said something about him using Tsukiyomi to control
Kabuto and end the Edo Tensei. Whil he's under it's effects, he'll control him
and end it.

And I think it's a good thing if Sasuke is going through that. I highly doubt he
could so drastically change to his Kage Summit-self after this, even if he
decides to go against Itachi. That's what I would hope for, anyway.

What is his ultimate? Edo Tensei?

For Sasuke's EMS, though, we can't try and compare it with Naruto's power. Not yet.
We haven't seen what it can really do yet. Naruto is OP as hell right now, but
there's no telling how OP Sasuke could potentially be with the EMS. Still need
to see it in action and the limits of its power.


Re: Naruto manga-Plot Twist?
Link | by devils-angel on 2012-03-14 18:05:47
Forget it, I read the new chapter got confused with the last chapter. It also seems Itachi's MS is better than I thought!

Sasuke only cherished his brother, plus with Edo Tensei up Itachi is pretty much immortal!
No idea how he'll defeat Itachi however he might use Sasuke against him since Sasuke can still die,
however he's dealing with the Uchiha brothers! Uchiha brothers are really beastmode, Madara and his brother, too.

And yes Kabuto (snake cloak) uses Edo Tensei and it's pretty beast, he's starting to be one of my mains in the game! His moveset fits my style a lot.

And about your last reply, I say this because the Sharingan has no effect against Sage mode, which Naruto has already mastered.
I'm sure Sasuke's new eyes won't wear out even if he over uses Amaterasu, even details of the EMS are limited as of now so yeah who knows.

By the time they fight (Naruto and Sasuke) they might be different fighters by then. I'm also pretty sure Naruto won't be able to enter Bijuu mode anymore. These are a long five minutes.

But you wanna know who's really OP, MADARA! DAMN he just made Tsunade loose her last ounce of breathe when she sounded so confident.
Can you imagine all those clones using Susano'o? Damn, they might as well surrender if he does do that. Geez the Chibaku Tensei was enough as it is!

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Re: Naruto manga-Plot Twist?
Link | by You're Not Alone! on 2012-03-14 18:28:09
LOL MADARA BE TROLLIN'. I LOL'd so hard after he did that. "Lol u like 5 on 1? :3"

I'm wanting to get Generations more and more, and I still don't even have Graces.
Y U DO DIS MONEY?! I hope I can still main Sasuke. Can't wait to use his new stuff.

I found it interesting that Kabuto tried to get Sasuke to help him fight Itachi.
I don't know if there was a bit of a translation error [without mangastream,
there's a severe drop these days in quality translations. Might read the ones
out there now, and then read what MS is doing now with their "J-Preview" summaries
of weekly jump chapters] but I don't see how Kabuto would have though he'd do it, rofl.

You'd prolly still see Naruto enter into Bijuu mode, but I still can't get over
how absolutely OP it is, LOL. He's gotten too many forms too quickly.

Ultimate Team of Sasuke and Itachi about to wreck Kabuto. It's a dream team-up.


Re: Naruto manga-Plot Twist?
Link | by devils-angel on 2012-03-15 14:11:02
Get Generations so we can play. :( There seems to be some issues with online though I can't really find people online to play.
I played one non-ranked battle online and the guy was lagging but I still won.
I thought more people were going to get it so we could get friend lobbies going. I want to test that even with just one person,
but I don't have/or see anyone else on my PSN list that has the game. A few people have been playing Graces f though. Boo~

Also I can almost guarantee Madara will be in Storm 3 cause in the game they have his fight with the 1st animated, however they skip the details in between and whatnot but still cool.
This is how strong the 1st Hokage is, he fought Madara AND the Kyuubi and still won.
You can only imagine how strong Madara is right now WITH Hashirama's cells.
I alos noticed this but he used Susano'o with the Rinnegan which proves the Rinnegan is even better than the EMS,
however I wonder if we'll ever see his EMS, which is ALSO in NSGen!
I'm not sure if the Rinnegan is different for different users like the MS is but its power is boundless. Other than appearance I'd choose the Rinnegan over the Sharingan any day.

I think Kabuto thinks he can take care of Itachi with or without Sasuke, though I'm sure he'll somehow use Sasuke against Itachi.
He knows Itachi is immortal right now, he even said it was his biggest weakness,
though I don't know how he can beat Itachi cause I doubt he'd shut off Edo Tensei just to save himself.

Kabuto's an insanely smart ninja, and he's no coward either, he tried to sneak back-stab (Skyrim reference ;P) Naruto when he was in his 4 tails mode. He suffered greatly though... lol.

Kurama said himself that after five minutes, they won't be able to enter this mode anymore.
He can probably still enter chakra mode which probably matches up to Susano'o.

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