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How many people played with the Quiji board?  Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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I tried an Ouji board a few years back. It didn't work for me, but I think that might very well be because I couldn't get into the proper meditative state. In other words I didn't have the l337 Ouji 5|<1ll2  |
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You need a least two people to make the ouji board work Jomunga eats your avatars. |
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Yes, I know that. I tried it with my sister. Neither of us were really taking it seriously at the time tho', so that might very well be why it didn't work. |
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I've never understood the Ouija board. We tried one when I was in school and we seemed to get answers only they were always yes or no. Pilots are a superstitious lot and I think with good reason. The spirit that bedevils pilots and their planes is called a gremlin. That's where the phrase comes from and it started in WWI. Ranger swears that they live in our plane. He bought it from from the AF after he got out and have been restoring it ever since, although with AvGas prices we can no longer afford to fill it up. If there is one thing he understands and knows in this world it's that airplane. He has replaced the wiring completely, 100%. Seven years ago he put new engines on (FAA requirement) including two brand new generators. Still ever since we have owned that plane we have had generator problems. Two generators, redundant systems are not supposed to fail only they have and more than once. Ranger blames the gremlins. He has been looking for an answer ever since we bought the plane and has never found an answer. These problems didn't exist before we bought it. We have all of the maintenance logs going back to day one and it was a perfect plane until we bought it. Shiriu please give us an explaination. Ranger's was an electrical engineer and he screams and yells at the plane over those two generators. They have been replaced and they still go out. One, the other, both. The wiring has been checked a million times everything has. In order to overcome the generator problem Rangers has installed 4 batteries instead of the usual two. That's enough to keep to keep everything operating for about an hour. If we shutdown everything we don't need we can stay up for two hours or more. It goes like this. *lights fail* *breakers pop* Ranger: Mr Scott I've lost power again. Me: I dinna know Capt, *reset generator breakers* *pop* *reset again* *pop* Me: Capt, I tried shoving a weiner in the warp drive but it dinna work. Then I start turning things off. The only thing left on is basic instruments and minimize lights, comms and navigation. It doesn't happen often and usually it's only a glitch still it is there. What's the problem, science and technology or gremlins? Fortunately only twice in 18 years have we made an emergency landing. Both times due to faulty generators. Port side once and both once. They have been replaced and replaced and replaced... Get the idea? I think technology is suspect to being manipulated by what we call the supernatural.  |
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Gremlins aren't just for airplanes! They also take an infernal delight in infesting Computers. My old computer, for example, started behaving very oddly after a while. Other things that go wrong for no apparent reason include just about anything that uses an internal combustion engine (a category that includes airplanes), and my bike (dammit! not again...). Normal wear and tear? Some cases, but in other cases something will be just fine one moment and falling apart the next. So who knows? |
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I got an interesting story. This one night I was lying on the top bunk of the bunk bed in my room that I share with my little sister. Well on this night my little sister wasn't home, so I was lying in my bed reading a magazine and I had my nightlight on. My cat, Ariel was lying next to my pillow curled up in a little ball... Out of nowhere I saw something dart into my room, I didn't get that great of a look at it but from what I saw it appeared to be wolf-like of some sort. It was greyish and had tattered fur. So anyways. This thing darted into my room and ran into the corner of my room and seemed to go right through the dresser and disapear. Now normally I would have thought I was just delusional from lack of sleep. but Ariel saw it too. When that thing came in, Ariel stood up and got this really alert and freaked out expression on her face. She walked over to the edge of the bed and looked around but whatever it was disapeared. I also thought it mighta been my dog or something. Except I have a little terrier who's got brownish fur. But just incase I called my mom in, since I was freaked out. Well mom walked in and my dog was right behind her. She searched the room and found nothing. Weird, huh? That was like 3 years ago. All sorts of weird stuff happened in that house. I've moved since then but still. And as for the "gremlin" theory. I think I'd have to agree. I'm totally cursed when it comes to computers. They die on me for no apparent reason. This one time, my old HP would turn itself on and off and make random high-pitched beeping noises... But the really weird thing is that it would only work again if I kicked it or turned the entire tower upside down or on its side... When i took it apart to inspect all the connections and parts everything was fine... No way to make a living; Masochism; Pain; Perfection; Muscle Spasms; Chiropractors; Short Carrers Eating Disorders! |
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on 2005-09-04 08:33:48 (edited 2005-09-17 07:24:30)
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Togther we  Ranger and Rin Ranger I dunno Crow. I have the same problenm with comptuers and other stuff but I always find the cause. Same thing with cars, trucks and ranch equipment, my ham radio station, everything. There's a backup generator for the house I have probs with all the time but I know what the are and it's usually an easy fix. I have probs but I can always find the cause. Not happening with the Aero. Everythings been replaced, every inch of wire, all breakers and switches, all electrics, everything. Over 10,000 hours on the airfame and it's perfect except for the generators. I've even replaced the factory ones with performance aftermarkets and I still have the same problems. I'm thinking of installing a redundant generator to carry the electrical load, a small gas driven honda A/C generator for backup power but the batts do the job. I've flown since I was 14 and never had a problem that couldn't be found. Studied eng, never had a problem that couldn't be found. Except for my Aero. To forestall a possible question; yes I have done emergency landings in the Aero, I practice them all the time, specially power failure ones. I can land it with total electrical failureusing manual deployment for the flaps and gear and being able to make a no flaps landing. rin's a fantastic co-pilot, she knows all the procedures and what to do when anything happens ad we make a game out of practicing them. I have only had to make an emergency landing once in 18 years and that was in bad weather 12 years ago. Rin Ranger taught me to fly and I have taken the schools. I received my pilots license this year after 9 years of lessons. The reason is, I was always afraid to land until this year. Now I have my license and 267 landings. corrected typos 17 Sep 5 |
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I think that with computers, any problems usually have a lot to do with Microsoft. However, I had a computer once that just wouldn't work right, no matter what you did, we even brought it to Comp USA a number of times and they could never find any problems with either the software or the hardware. Eventually we had to replace it. |
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i am incredibly computer illiterate, so anything that has to do with them, supernatural or not, is simply a mystery to me! maybe i'm supposed to know everything about them or something because i'm in some kind of 'generation' that's supposed to do that... i don't know, i don't care very much either... as for flying, i love lift-offs and landings.... but i hate the time in-between! when i went to europe i hated imagine-ing being thousands of feet in the air over a large, large body of water... for seven or six hours or so... >.< and for some reason i can never fall asleep on airplanes, unless i'm half dead already. i just can't. i really like british airways though, they're the best airline i've ever been on. now, isn't this a supernatural thread???? let's get back to that. Xian, your story is very, very interesting. how young is your little sister? the thing is that whenever i felt like i've sensed a presence, so has my sister. and this may have to do with either childhood mindsets or experiences of her own, but she always knows what i'm talking about when i'm referring to them... i dunno. sometimes i think that kids are a lot less freaked out about spirits compared to some people because they haven't been taught to fear them by their parents, which is really cool... they shouldn't be feared... i don't know what i'm talking about, so whatever! hehe.
nya........... hehe.
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| Xian, your story is very interesting, I really like creepy stories with ghosts and shadows and spirits, and yes, I do believe in them, and that it can be explained. |
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on 2005-09-04 18:45:28 (edited 2005-09-04 18:46:50)
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Then to Nejigirl computers must seen almost supernatural in the way they work. It must be magic, I type on the keyboard and the cursor moves and I click and things happen. It's Magic! Still it is explainable. The phrase supernatural has been used over and over to explain the unexplainable so it really could cover just about anything you don't understand. From an un-findable un-fixable problem in an airplane to the way a computer works. You don't need to understand either any more than you need to understand the way a cell phone works or, why water boiled with bark of the cottonwood tree is a good remedy for muscle pain or a wild coyote hangover. Just accept that they are the way they are. Neither is magic and both are scientifically explainable. Faeries are a good example. Faeries are the something else, the unexplainable. What are they, where do they come from? It's there on the edge of your awarness, a total mystery, magic and most people want to believe in them. A few people actually do. They're everywhere only most people have lost the either the inner child or the connection with Gaia - Mother Earth that makes seeing them possible. So what is a faerie? I believe it is a physical manifestation of Gaia in a form we can understand. I think that is the way it was when I was eight in the faerie circle, when I was 14 on a school field trip and we all felt it and when I was with Ranger that evening in Wales. And while I have never encountered one in the desert I believe they live here in the palm oasis, canoyn streams and where ever else there is natural water as well. Still, I do believe I have felt their presence. |
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No offense Lady Rin, but the whole idea of the "inner child" and the mystification of childhood is one of the most annoying concepts in existence. Seriously, though, what's so special about children? I'm sick of phrases like "the innocence of childhood". Children are innocent not because of any special quality, but because they haven't been around long enough to find things out. Part of you does not die when you become an adult. When people talk about how they miss their childhood, they're doing so for two reasons: one, the older you get, the better the past looks compared to the present. That's why you get all the old geezers talking about how the world is going to pot and things were so much better when they were young. The second reason is, when you're a kid, people do everything for you and except for school you can basically do whatever you want. Children are not more perceptive than adults when it comes to the supernatural either (Stephen King to the contrary). All of the ghost sightings and other supernatural seeming events that I've had experience with have been reported by either adults or teenagers, and the same goes for everything I've heard about on this thread too (unless someone's a lot younger than I think they are :P). Now that I've got that off my chest... About your definition of supernatural: yes, everything's supernatural until it's explained. The supernatural is, by definition, unexplained. I also believe, like you, that there are some things that we will never be explained. Sorry about the whole rant thing. |
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hmm... i think that children have a differend point of view due to their range of experiences, and therefore perhaps they're more willing to believe things that others with a different view of life wouldn't be capable of, or something? sometimes it does get annoying, though. but i do think that there might be something to it.
nya........... hehe.
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Your entitled to rant, it's Monday. Rant on Mon, Wed and Fri, Rave Tues, Thurs Sat. Your choice on sunday. OldCrow said No offense Lady Rin, but the whole idea of the "inner child" and the mystification of childhood is one of the most annoying concepts in existence. Shows what you know, *sticks tongue out* and you have only yourself to blame when I create an "inner child thread" *giggles* I also hope you are not inferring Ranger and I are geezers as well. *giggles* I do believe children are more perceptive than adults when it comes to the supernatural and I also think it's more than a childs imagination. As we grow older we start to learn the preconcieved ideas of those older that we are and lose faith in some of what we have experienced or think. Such things as no Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, or Tooth Faerie start us down the road to doubt. Becoming aware of the physical world means no more monsters in the closet or faeries in the garden. Instead it is replaced with the evening news, cartoons and reality programming. I wonder if what we see, what we call spirits, supernatural, faeries and such are in the part of our minds that also allows us fanciful thoughts and the ability to believe instead of doubt. We only use about 10% of our brains power. What is buried in the rest. Throughout(sp) the existence of mankind there have been people able to use more of this brain power than others. Prodigies, geniuses, the idiot savant. Do they have the ability to focus more of there minds to what they want whether they realize it or not? Prof. Stephen Hawking (famous physicist) has put forth the most incredible theories and people accept them without question despite the fact he is confined to a wheelchair and can't speak without computer assistance. He has no proof of these things he is talking about, only a thought and perhaps a computer model based on what he perceives is correct. If you ask him, "Do you believe?" he'll say no. However give him a stupid, dumb bit part on Star Trek and ask him if he believes in phasers, Klingons and the Force he says yes and is a child again. It is his inner child that allows him to makes these quantum leaps in thought. It is also this inner child that does not allow him to believe because of his focus on science. Both Ranger and I are scientists by the dictionary definition. "Studying or having knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding through investigation and scientific method". Science does not imply something exists or not. It is the study of whether it does exist or not. If it does exist it catagorized(sp0 and further investigated by scientific method, the analysis of physical fact. If it doesn't exist by scientific method then it is forgotten and placed into the realm of the supernatural. Remember what I said earlier. Do you believe? If you believe in the Borg, Species 8472 or Yoda and the force possibly living in the multiverse somewhere, Prof Hawkings theory of multiple planes and dimensions, then why not believe in the rest? BTW Stephen King believes. |
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oot... it's monday.... i didn't even notice that... hee, it's my 100th post! :P but anyway, i think sometimes the whole children thing is over-fantasized, but there is a point to it. i think the world does seem magical when you're younger. for instance, when i was four i went to disney world {huge groan from reading audience. me: give me a chance!}, and i was amazed by how big everything was, how enchanting the whole place was. i went back, and now it seems like all the rides are teeny spheres-of-influence that can only truly be appreciated as a younger person, like a child, or an much older person that's going through nostalgia, you know? you views things differently when you're younger, and i don't think the supernatural is an exception.
nya........... hehe.
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to add up to what nejigirl said... Psychologists can back up what she said. A test was done in a hospital where a group of psychologists were instructed to ambulate around the hospital SITTING on a skateboard in the paediatric ward. They were wondering "Well what the hell is this about?". At the end they realised how the hospital looks like from a child's point of view. Everything looks different from when you're an adult. A hypodermic needle, for example, is probably the length of a child's arm which it is about as wide as my whole hand. It doesn't have a direct connection, but it just goes to show how kids, or in this context we as kids viewed the world.
Veni, Vidi, Vici.
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by chizuru_chan
on 2005-09-17 07:06:43
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ano...what's an ouji board?
Life starts simply , why change them?
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chizu, try this link at the Wikipedia |
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My uncle had supernatural experiences when he was a kid back on Mainland China. Actually, it's more like his relatives have supernatural experiences around my uncle. Coz my uncle told me that at that time, when he falls asleep at nite, the other relatives would claim they've seen ghosts and stuff. But not when my dad is awake. My uncle, who studies the 'other side' of things, says his birth characteristics makes him immune to curses and stuff and wards off ghosts and bad spirits. And that it extends to his offsprings until they are old enough to fend for themselves. It happened once. My cousin Seki was told by his other cousin that he will never have a peaceful day for rest of his life. Whether that cousin meant it as a curse I'm not sure. But the 'curse' backfired on that cousin. Once in highschool in HK, someone framed him with drugs (heroine). He was kicked out of school and now forced to do physical work. My aunt in an argument wif my uncle (Seki told me this), she kinda told my uncle to go to hell. What happened later was that my aunt's lil bro got killed in a motorcycle crash in HK. |