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Re: The depression thread
Link | by night_link on 2005-08-17 14:09:31 (edited 2005-08-17 19:51:44)
You're selfish nightmare you know that? You really don't think that there was never a person who never shared the same thoughts as you? If you don't think so then let me tell you I did the same so much that I wanted suicide at one time. Seeing no meaning in life is so childish because there's always the bright side of life even if all you see is darkness.

Why am I not dead? Maybe because there were people I had to live for. Why for my sake of my happiness should I take away theirs? What good is that going to do if I took my own life? That's the selfishness I'm talking about.

Why do you think you see life as hell? Isn't every human capable of that? If you believe in God, then you'd know that everything happens for a reason, even if we can't see it.

Let me ask you then, what do you know about life so well that you think it's a hell? How would you know that you life is hell compared to others?

You want to think life as a hell? It's really not going to do you any good. I know because I did for a time. All it does is make you suffer when you don't have to. It brings more confusion to you and to the others around you and it only gets worse the longer it happens.

I don't know what to say. If you aren't open, why are you still commenting on this thread?

Re: The depression thread
Link | by on 2005-08-17 14:15:45
I agree wit Old Man Kai all the way...nightmare if you think that just because 2 gurls had dumped u 4 their own reasons then u must be stupid...I too wanted to suicide but then when i think about it more carefully there are more important things in life then just crying over some gurl/boy that had just dumped u...If you give up ur life now then how in the world r u ever gonna get another gurl? Think of this phrase:

There are plenty more fishes in the sea!

いつもあなたは。。。大好きです!

Re: The depression thread
Link | by nightmare on 2005-08-17 19:20:44
OK first of all, i just wnat to say one thing...YOU GUYS ARE NOT HELPING!!!!!!! Maybe a little SUPPORT would help. but seriously, insted of feeling bad about my life, ive decided to embrase the darkness and the sadness. it makes me feel a little better about things...


Re: The depression thread
Link | by night_link on 2005-08-17 19:33:18 (edited 2005-08-17 20:30:36)
How do you want us to help you then? Embrace the darkness too and go along with you? Are you afraid of that dark? Or you're just looking for other people who think like you to agree that life is a hell? If yeah, then I'm sure there are others.

Hey when you say embracing the darkness and sadness makes you feel a "little" better about things, I'd like to see what embracing the bright side would do.

You're 16 and still have life ahead of you. Why darken it now? Yeah sure those were 2 girls that weren't the "one" for you. Hey, that's only 2 down then (sorry if that seems mean) and you still have more to see.

You want to know what wrong with this generation? They can't see as far as they should later on. You think in the area you live is the only place to find someone you later are going to spend the rest of your life with? If yeah, then that's pretty sad. And as for the other things, just consider them as a bad day. You think your parents were the only ones to treat their kid like you? Maybe there are some things that your parents underestimate you about, maybe not. Whatever they think, they want it for the best of you I'm sure. And maybe why would they restrict you from having a girlfriend? Maybe they can already see faster than you can breath that they want someone better for their son instead of the girls they see right now? Has that ever passed through your mind? Hell, there are plenty of parents that are like that. It drives both sides crazy, I would know.

*sigh* If you think that's the most depressing situation you're ever going to see, you're in for a treat then. When it comes to your parents, they drive you nuts right? What would you rather have? You die and they bury you? Or you bury them? Or is it by that time you have no heart to care? Even before death, everyone gets old and weaker and sick. Is it because of how you were treated growing up that you still would rather play in the dark than see that they die in comfort, knowing that their children will live long after them and know how to care for themselves and maybe handle the responsibility of a parent?

You're lucky to have your parents. You're lucky to have your life. Some people don't. Some people CAN'T. What can you do about that?!! Nothing right? Then don't act like you can't find what is precious in life!!

Re: The depression thread
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-08-18 08:19:34
From what ive heard so far nightmare you have problems with parents? Well thats an easily solved problem. Change your attitude, make life hell for your parents if they try to dominate you. I would be depressed if I didnt have my control over my parents, but since I do I can just watch anime to relieve stress. If life is hell try experimenting and doing things to change it, dont just endure it, enduring a hellish life gets you no where.

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by andreyev on 2005-08-19 00:18:36
i believe there's nothing wrong with your life, but there's definitely something wrong with your attitude towards life.
if you feel sad, feel free to cry, not crying forever, but to ease your pain temporarily, and then stand up, fight your problem, and solve it.
i think man should live this way.
some people think that commit suicide is the suitable way to solve problem, but i think there's definitely better way to solve yours.
in other words, if you think life is hell, change it, change it into your paradise with your own will, and power. do not give up.

there are many people who is less lucky than you, those who don't have girlfriend (for example me), parents, money (million of people in my country even doesn't have enough money to spend on food), and cars. Think about them, if they have the will to change their life, and if they have to will to stay alive, why don't you have one?

God's in his heaven. All's right with the world.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by mirutt on 2005-08-19 06:36:35 (edited 2005-08-19 06:41:20)
well nightmare, i actually agree with alot of people here. do you just want to die over a girl? i know you want to feel important like protecting her and such and having someone to be there for you... but doesn't that equal to friends to? if you can't find a girlfriend, this usually takes time. you can't just say "i want a girlfriend" and then BOOM!! she'll suddenly appear in front of you. these situations take time and eventually you'll have the right one for you. just wait, it won't be long.

rather than setting some sights on a girl now, why don't you protect your friends instead? like they say, friends would die for each other and stick to each other through thick and thin. there's nothing bad about that. even if it is a different feeling, you're experiencing the same thing. living life, knowing you're in an important position.

commiting suicide isn't that great. i know depression gets to you and you'd juts think about these stuff. i too at times, think that commiting suicide is the GREATEST THING TO DO!!! HELL YEAH I WANNA DIE RIGHT NOW CAUSE NO ONE CARES!! but how do you know? have you actually asked your friends? or do you think they're answer is a joke? even if it may not seem like it, when you die they'll actually cry like hell. sometimes when i look back and see myself in that vulnerable state, i just laugh cause it's foolish and certainly not the right mindset.

so like the others suggested, set you life some goal and say you would not want to give up until you achieve it. find something to do and don't think "oh god said we must live to suffer bla bla bla and i shall suffer till the day i die". sure, everyone suffers but that doesn't what it means. it means you suffer now, but enjoy benefits later. so just pick yourself up, and wait till the time comes. don't dwell on something that you're waiting for others to fix, but instead fix it YOURSELF. YOU are the one to decide, not god, not anyone. even if he DOES know when it's going to happen, YOU have to help yourself before he helps you.

oh and i forgot to mention... usually when you're depressed alot of people would go, it's weak to cry and etc. but if by saying so, then i have to say suicide is the weakest thing to do.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by nightmare on 2005-08-19 12:57:19
ok seriously, WHAT IS WORNG WITH YOU PEOPLE???
your taking my words and twisting them all around to the point where your comenting on problems that dont exist! so i feel i must clear up some things...

#1 i do NOT want to die just becase 2 girls dumped me! im still looking (im not very optomistic, but im still looking) I only want to have a girlfriend so that i can be happyer. but its very difficult to go out and meet girls when your virtually locked in the house becase my parrents are SO overprotective.

#2 by "embrasing" the darkness and sadness. I mean ive decided to just accept the fact that God wants me to feel this way for a REASON, and when He wants to let me feel happyness again, i will. Thats that. theres nothing i can do about it. so why try?

#3 My parents love me very much, but they just dont show it very well.

#4 The few friends i DO have dont really care about my mental health. Yes, some laugh when i tell them about my suicidal thoughts , some say "sure, go for it". ONE actually gives a shit! and i care about her more than any person alive. She is practically my sister. (i cannot go out with her, becase she loves another.)

#5 contrary to everyone's beliefes, i do NOT enjoy feeling this way. if i could change it, i would. trust me, ive tried!

#6 My attitude tward life has been burned into my mind. Its not going to change in a flash. ive tried to change it...but it never works and it usually just makes things worse.

#7 I WILL NOT commit suicide. its cheep, its underhanded, it goes agenst my religion. just to let you know, you are NOT the ones that convinced me...

#8 All of you who just say (basically) "just be happy." ITS NOT THAT EASY!! being depressed gives you this hopeless look tword life. its not like i can just do something and ill be happy. It will take TIME!!



In conclusion, i just want to say that i created this thread on this site because i felt that the people that use this site could maybe make me feel better. kinda like a "dont worry, we all go threw it." But insted i get yelled at and critisized and torn apart. i was NOT expecting to have to defend agenst you. basically, you guys are making me MORE depressed...thanks alot!


Re: The depression thread
Link | by nightmare on 2005-08-19 15:26:03
thank you Lucian, that is probibly the best advice anyone has ever given me. Thank you very much

My parents promised me that i could go to the dance tonight, now they are saying that they never promised me that. so they are saying that i can go...for a price. but after this, i think im willing to pay that price...im not going to quit, not yet anyway.

but the saying continues...Quitters never win, winners never quit, but thoes who never win and never quit are idiots.

maybe i AM being an idiot, but you never know right?

ill let you know how it goes!


Re: The depression thread
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-08-19 16:49:42
Well im not as depressed as Nightmare, but my problems are worse in my opinion.

1. I've never had a firlfriend, the few girls that came on to me I refused. My standards are high, and the women who live arounds me are loose and have unpleasant personalities. I will probably never find a girl.

2. I am not as suicidal as a am homocidal. I hate my Dad, want him to die, want to be the one to kill him. Mom is good, I like her but she is rediculously stupid, and I have no respect for her for choosing my dad. Hate my brother want to kill him. Hate my sister, want her to stop being like the rest of the women around me.

3. Friends all gone, off to college. Decent friends I will never see again.

4. Will eventually either have to move out and find job. Or go to college. I want neither.

5. Live in a terrible community. Hate leaving the house.

6. Bittorrent going slow.

I would be depressed if it werent for anime keeping me entertained. Letting me escape from reality every day.

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by Funsch on 2005-08-19 18:00:07
I can kinda emphasise with you on the friendship part jomunga. I always feared that I'll eventually lose my good friends. I was never good at making friends anyways and always found it difficult. As soon as Uni started for me, I struggle to make friends and there wasen't anyone I could really call a friend at Uni. My old friends were making lots of friends at college/Uni and we'd hardly talk or see each other anymore. It kinda made me feel lonely. It was kinda shocking for me and I went throught a huge state of depression for a while and I kept trying to avoid Uni as much as I can. It happened for almost a year and half now, up to now.

In between that time I got hooked to anime, video games, and football(Soccer) to escape the harsh reality.

But now I realise I'm just running away from my problems and by escaping from the harsh reality "all the time" isn't helping and eventually my problems will catch up to me again, like it did already.

I'm not disagreeing that watching anime is good for escape reality. It's OK, but I guess, are we going to keep doing this? Wouldn't our problems eventually catch up to us and it'll be more worst then, then it was before?

I know it's hard trying to solve your problems, and that people are afraid of being depressed, it's a fear we all have, a fear of depression as well as failure.

But if we don't try we're just giving up easily aren't we? As some of the people mentioned below. I think if we don't try we're screwed already and if we do try at least there's a possibility that something good might happen. If not then I think a good thing to do is to analyse the situation and point out all the mistakes and try and learn from them.

Also, I think Hard Work Rate is an important factor to solve our problems and performing at your full potential.

Maybe planning the situation on paper (yeah I know it sounds kinda weird) is a good way as well. That way you can use it as a template for other situations.

Closing your eyes and "visualising" the possible situation and trying to emphasise it to make it feel realistic may also help. That way if there are any fears that you have you can try and conquer them. How to conquer them? Well for example if someone is teasing you, you can think of a way to say something that'll get back at them or cancel out what they say. So if someone calls me a D*** Head, I'll just say my D*** is not on my head. Or if someone says you're S*it. I just say but I'm moving i can't be S*it. They might say you're moving S*it. I just say but S*it doesn't move. Probably not the best example I can think of :(.... But my point is maybe planning and visualising the situation might help.

And try not to feel under pressure, cause I watched in an interesting Football(Soccer) video, that it causes your body to strain and you're mentality to think like an amateur and forget what you really wanna say. I think a way to conquer this is to practice your situation, so maybe talk to people every so often and experiment with different stuff as you mentioned below jomunga and also don't give a s*it about what they say and it doesn't matter if you feel embarrassed. That way you can build up your confidence and eventually say something that might impress someone and then from then on you can go on a roll of saying impressive stuff.

Oh! Yeah, about the girlfriend situation, I'd never had a girlfriend or really any girls I could call friends, so you can just ignore this part if you want to, and I'd always get nervous around girls for some reason as well :(. But I think it's better to act like yourself and be honest to them. Don't be afraid of there response cause if they don't like you then you know she's not the one for you. I know it's a big ask and please forgive me for this, but maybe you should lower you're expectations a bit on girls and actually try and know the girl a little better. Maybe there not that bad after all.

People use to think I was boring and never talked to me when I was still in high school, but when they saw me talk to my good friends before, they actually found me interesting and started wanting to talk to me, and one of them was the most popular guy in my year, who I ofcourse respect for his personality. But I felt underpressure and just couldn't talk to them the same way I talked to my good friends. That's when I realise that I at least had some potential and that there was still hope to solve my problems.

I know it might seem hopeless at times but you have to believe in yourself, believe you can do it.

I wasn't really into Football(Soccer) before the 2002 World Cup but when I watched it, it became interesting and I couldn't get enough of it. It might sound weird but I think Football is a lot like life. They go through there problems as well, of losing, player controversey, finanical debt, etc. Getting depressed or having a bad day it's kinda like watching a team lose a match in Football(Soccer). Players always leave and come into the club is like losing friends and making new ones.

But one thing that gave me more self belief in Football is the "unpredictable factor". There was a match in the 2003/2004 UEFA Champions League where an Italian Team AC Milan beat a Spanish Club Deportivo La Coruna 4-1 in the first match/leg. AC Milan are one of the biggest football clubs in the world and they also have some of the greatest players in the world in every position on the field. Previously in another match, Deportivo had lost 8-3 to a small french club called Monaco.

What really inspired me was that surprisingly in the second match Deportivo scored 4 goals to beat AC Milan in the second match to win 5-4 overall on aggregate and proceed to the next round. Deportivo had self belief and "they achieved the impossible!!!!!" Deportivo aren't considered one of the greatest football clubs and they have been victim to huge scoreline losses.

That's when I realise that no matter how bleak the situation looks you should have self belief and try your best to solve it. Surprisingly things might turn around and be better.

I hope this can help you solve your problem joumunga and for others as well with similar problems. I'm not saying anyone should take my advice and I'm not telling anyone what to do, and sorry if I offened anyone at all or made things worse :(. It's just something I thought might be a different approach to try and to maybe help solve the problem.

And one more thing I saw in an anime called His and Her Circumstance. It had an interesting quote "Happiness does not last forver neither does Sadness"

I hope I'd help some people with what I said and please forgive me for making grammar and sentence structure mistakes @_@.


Re: The depression thread
Link | by Seki on 2005-08-19 18:20:02
Yeah, I can empathsise with some of you. I too have no girlfriend, girls around me looks at me like I'm dirt (except those ones that looks at me as friends, but friends only). I hate my brother who does not accept that I'm older than he, my dad is a control freak, my mum is a bloody idiot half the time, my other relatives are all in Hong Kong where I cant get to them for help. My friends are slowly leaving me behind. I too also thought about suicide, I once looked over the side of my local shopping center and wondered if i would die by jumping off or would I just badly injure myself. Of course, I was too chicken to go through wif it.

But I know one thing, something that one of you said, "If I can get a girlfriend I would be happy/ I can change my views in life", you know what? that's view is wrong. girls will absolutely NOT go for this type of guys coz guys wif this attitude is insecure, not confident abt themselves, and dependent on the girl (and would be devastated if the girl isnt there), no girl wants that burden.

For those who thinks that read this http://www.outpostnine.com/editorials/mating3.html
it's helpful I think to read this and understand. It's an editorial but it makes lots of sense.

Well, having said that, I'm also one who is depressed. And it's not a good feeling that I know. And yeah, I've also used anime and movies to escape from reality but it just doesnt go on forever. After a while, watching too much anime will make you start losing interests in it. But I've only found one way that kinda work with all this. Just live each moment as it is. Sometimes thinking too much about the future I feel is depressing. So i just live each day as it is.
But yeah, most of what people have said about their depressive feelings I can understand. It just sucks to be our type of people
Well, enough wif my ramblings.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by andreyev on 2005-08-19 19:30:33
so, many people in this thread think that not having a girlfriend is a problem, eh?

God's in his heaven. All's right with the world.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-08-19 20:18:22
Not having a girl friend is my only unbearable problem. I have no dreams or ambitions in this life. The only kind of job ive ever wanted stopped existing a long time ago(swordsman for hire). Living life each day seems pointless. I dont want to live for another 70 years just going to and from a crappy job, and barely keeping my sanity with anime. What is so great about living just for the sake of being alive.

I want a girl who I can devote my life to. Not just any girl either, I want to be in love. That would give the biggest reason to live. I want spend all my time with my girlfriend: dating, watching anime, spending the holidays together, eating together, sleeping together (even without sex it would be great), it would be nice if we could even work together (Or I get an at home job). Having some one like that is the only way I would want to live. And having kids would give all the more reason to live. But getting some one like that seems impossible. I will only settle for a girl that im in love with and falling in love is a very hard thing to do, especially when the girls around you are like the ones around me. And my appeal isnt all that great, im not like these super handsome bishounen or Oji-sama type guys that the girls love. Most people find my apperance scary.

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by Seki on 2005-08-20 05:50:27
Hey, you aint the one wif the problem ya know. Let me tell you abt my history of depressive feelings...

I havent got a gf, ever. When I pass by chicks on uni campus, most of them looks the other way or looks at me out of the corners of their eye making me feeling like I'm some sort of monster that should not have been released into society. Not that no girl is interested in me, I got hit on by this random Malay/Indo chick who I dont even like. Every chick that I manage to get on well in the beginning all have bf already. And my sense of honour meant that once I know that chick has a bf I'll lay my hands off, it's naive probably but that's my sense of honour. i wouldnt want some guy chatting up my chick and take her away from me.
Anyways, my most recent f*#$-up would have sent me to the brink. I meet this chick through my friend, I had a good time, I got to hold her when we were at the nightclub for her bday. That's my dream u know, to have a girlfriend in my arms. But it turns out that she has a bf and didnt tell me til two days after that. I got upset and she end up not talking to me anymore. I didnt know and kept trying to talk to her but later I was accused as a stalker by her friend. I now see her sometimes on campus but she blatantly avoids me. I have nothing towards her now but to notice a chick deliberately avoiding you makes you feel depressive for the rest of the day.
You want to know more of my f*##-up bad luck with other chicks, just ask. The point being if there is anyone who really wants to die most it's me. Unless you have experiences that surpass mine in crappiness.
But my thinking was and is the same as yours. I want a girlfriend to devote myself to. I want a girl to hold on to and spend time together. I want to marry the girl and have my own family. But you know wat? that kinda attitude will make all those wishes NOT happen. Coz you are giving out the message to chicks around you saying "HEY! I'M A GUY WIF NO CONFIDENCE IN MY OWN ABILITY, I WANT A CHICK TO BE MY GF TO MAKE ME HAPPY." As I said b4, no chick wants that kinda guy.
First thing though, do you have a stable job? Second thing, what have you got to offer the chick? Third thing, are you stable enough to stand on your own?
By able to live day for day is a step to accomplish the third thing, it's not easy to live ech day as is i know. I do this but I dont wanna live like this for the rest of my life either.
Not only not having a gf, my friends from high school are slowly drifting apart, some of them have openly dissed me saying they are trying to help me. I dont make friends easily but I did manage to find a couple of new friends in uni but everyone is so busy it's still lonely for me.
You know I actually cry myself to sleep 50percent of the time, my life is THAT bad. Your unbearable problem would probably be nothing compared to mine and other people's out there.
So the first thing I advise you to do which I'm trying to do as well is to be able to live each day and work towards bettering yourself in each of those days. If you are at uni then do well in ur course til you graduate and find a job. Then with proper income u can start going to look for chicks. How old are you? I'm 22 and it's still early for those of my friends who care enough abt me to tell me. And dont set too high goals on the chicks you want. Even I want a gorgeously bijin chick who got long slender legs, good looking face and nice personality too, but sometimes you have to make do with those just below your ideal. My boss told me a good advice once. Dont start going for chicks that you know are way out of ur league. Start at the below average chicks, their expectations of guys aint so high as the bijin chicks so it would be easier for you to relate to. If you find that one of these just below average chick is someone you like, good for you. Then start climb higher as you gain confidence. It sounds sleazy I know, my boss is sleazy what u expect. But that reasoning is still valid. Just dont go for chicks you dont have confidence wif just yet.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by on 2005-08-20 07:46:11
Well said Seki, anyways

Being depressed leads to nowhere but to a pool of more depression. The more you get depressed the more pulled into it until theres no way out and you think death as the solution. I mean, as long as your alive you can do something. The hell, crying solves nothing, if tears can solve your problems we probably wont have to deal with war, hate etc. I for one is experiencing so much pressure from all sides (parents, girls, etc) but you don't see me sulking.I have the such "bad luck" that a meteor might suddenly crash into my place but i dont let that stop me because i dont believe in luck. Everything happens for a reason. I just do my best to do everything i can and exert some effort in changing what i have now for the better. This definately better than crying in a room and doing nothing.


Re: The depression thread
Link | by andreyev on 2005-08-20 08:31:55
it's alright to cry sometimes, and share your feelings with your friend.
it will soothe your pain, and perhaps your friend can help you solving the problem.

God's in his heaven. All's right with the world.

Re: The depression thread
Link | by nightmare on 2005-08-20 08:46:05
first off, i agree with jomunga, i want the same thing...but girls like that simply dont exist anymore...i found that out the hard way...

My first dance

Well, I just got back from my very first school dance ever. It’s my first dance because my parents don’t let me out of the house much, so I didn’t really know what to expect. When I got there, everything was cool…but once I got inside, it was NOT what I expected. The girls all looked like sluts in their skimpy outfits and the guys were strutting around like pimps. No one even bothered to say “hi” to me in the 2 and a half hours that I spent there. What REALLY bugged me was the way people were “dancing”. Everyone was rubbing their butts and pelvises together in time with the music. Maybe it is just the way I am, but that is absolutely DISCUSTING!!! It seemed like everyone was completely resorting to animal impulse. At times, I actually felt like vomiting because it was so discussing. It was, for lack of a better term, a sex frenzy. I was tempted to leave right then. But I stuck it out and after walking around the floor with revulsion; I quietly left at 10:30pm.

Has today’s girls gone completely insane? These are mostly girls from catholic schools, and they were rubbing against each other like sex freaks. My question is, are there ANY nice, kind girls out there? Or are they all just as obsessed with sex as all the rest? Are there any girls out there that care about emotional feelings instead of physical pleasure? Or am I the only person on this planet that still has any good Christian values left? If there still exists girls that value love, kindness, and caring, over physical pleasure, where can you find them? Certainly not at Catholic Central’s school dances. Because it has become QUITE clear that ALL of today’s youth are so sex obsessed that they don’t even know what love really means. So I’m quite simply giving up. Giving up on my dream of having a nice, caring wife. Giving up my dream of having kind, loving children. Because it quite simple will never happen because, apparently, girls like that simply don’t exist anymore. Contrary to my previous belief, Chivalry is, in fact, a dead art. It only lives on in its one remaining believer, the last member of a dead race…me.


i wrote this letter and am posting it on all the forum sites i belong to (gendou, RedvsBlue, and my space.) quite simply, i give up! im sick of looking for something that doesn't exist anymore! so i have now offically given up all hope. i am going to stop fighting the current and just let myself sink deeper into that "pool of more depression" that shards was talking about. if anyone wishes to try and change my views, you are welcome to try...however it is said "an open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded." I am now barring and guarding my gates. closing my mind to the possibility of my dreams ever comming to fruition.


Re: The depression thread
Link | by Jomunga on 2005-08-20 11:10:30 (edited 2005-08-20 11:11:36)
I wouldnt just give up just yet. I im sure there are still girls with values, just not around where you or I live. I mean if there are guys like us with values then there should be alot of girls with values too. Its usually guys that influence the girls. Its all a matter of how they are raised. If you live in a good community with good people and good friends you will probaly become good yourself. Im thinking of moving to where one of these good communities are. Its hard to think of anywhere like that in America. But its seems incredibly hard to move to Japan. Im sure there are the girls we want in Japan. Gendou himself has a super-girlfriend from Japan.

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Re: The depression thread
Link | by night_link on 2005-08-20 13:09:15 (edited 2005-08-20 13:28:28)
First of all nightmare, it's not that I like annoying the hell out of people I come across. I'm sorry you had to comment many times saying that some of us didn't understand your situation. But the thing is that I keep reading your brief comments and think something else that you weren't looking for. Until the point that you were frustrated even more and had to comment again explaining your problems more clearly so at least I could better understand.

Regarding looking for girls that have values, I agree jomunga when you say that it depends on the communities that people are raised in that make them who they are. But I'm not sure that you have to travel as far as Japan to find the girl you're looking for. My parents still tell me it is better to look for a girl from the rural (country side) area. I don't know how it comes like that, but it does make sense in a way. In the country side, it is more natural and that most likely the people raised there are not focused on material in life, which sadly many do nowadays. Instead, they still learn most traditional values and morality. My parents are Chinese and that usually means old-fashioned ways like she should know how to make bread rolls and help raise a family and that kind of stuff. At least they didn't say what ethnic she had to be or it'd take quite a while. Of course America isn't an ideal place to find a girl (many would rather have them being taken care of instead of them taking care of a family later on) but most likely you have look a little harder too and further.

Nightmare, there are girls out there with values. If it is true that they don't exist anymore, then a lot of cultures are really going to die faster. I don't think many intend for that to happen, but even good hearted people can make mistakes. I've had my bad times too, but I know for sure that everything turns right for everyone in the end. Sometimes when I feel sad or frustrated, I go outside to practice martial arts by myself to let it go. I feel better because I know that I can't stay that way forever. Sometimes parents are doing the right things, just in a wrong way. When you mention of you're parents just not knowing how to show they love you, that shouldn't mean you do the same to your kids after you find the girl. You know what is right and what is wrong in your heart and that is something that many people cannot do nowadays. There's a Buddhist saying "When you set to accomplish something, have the courage of a lion, the innocence of a child, and the endurance of a camel." My point being, know what is right and wrong use it throughout your lifetime and pass it on.

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