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Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by hime197 on 2007-10-12 22:17:38
When I had a problem as a kid, I was told that crying wouldn't solve anything. I had thought this meant crying was a sign of weakness, so I tried not to do it as much. That mind set made me grow into a self-reliant and cynical child; if someone beat me up, I had to take care of myself. It took me years to realize that I didn't have to do everything on my own. Admittedly, I still feel ashamed if I cry in public.

The children of my godparents came over this week; they're seven years younger than me. I was surprised how well-equipped they were for 2007: they modified their myspace pages, texted every day, and just got Halo 3. They are at the age of starting puberty, so naturally the kids have this cussing bravado. But if someone hits them, all they have to do is cry and my godparents are ready to make assault charges. Those two act so arrogant sometimes, but they can't defend themselves worth a damn.

Now I'm perplexed; I don't know what's at fault here.

Was it wrong for me to grow up independent? Or, is it this generation's children who have grown too sheltered?

I want to believe the kids are just spoiled brats and that I'm the only well-adjusted one. Yet I know this is the wrong answer.

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by ~'*ShinJinrui*'~ on 2007-10-12 22:28:01 (edited 2007-10-12 22:32:36)
The problem has always been the generation gaps, i.e. our parents and us. Yes, some have good parents, and some of us not so proud of. It's kind of hard to account all the generation that pass to actually put up a reasonable answer...

*EDIT*
But then again, the generation gaps have nothing to do with it. Maybe its just us trying to configure ourselves in a way that best fits us, but not others.

But yeah, it's probably just us being individuals, rather then generations, being raised different is all, but that's just me not over analysing. If that makes sense



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Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by hime197 on 2007-10-13 09:09:39 (edited 2007-10-13 09:32:29)
Maybe I'm just jealous of them. The brother and sister get what they want, and they're allowed to do things I could never do when I was their age.

*EDIT*
Still, I hate how they're such hypocrites. During their stay, a neighbor's kid kicked the boy in the shin. He was so traumatized that he started crying and hyperventilating. It was so pathetic my neighbor stopped picking on him. His sister and I took hours just to calm him down.

After he was alright, the siblings went off to torment my five-year-old cousin. This disgusted me. It was like they didn't learn anything. They had the right to pick on little kids, but it's a crime when one of them gets picked on.

This is how I justify myself whenever I envy them.

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by on 2007-10-13 11:25:02
Something I've learned in my TOK class.

This came from the book Generations by Strauss and Howe

In America (and only America):
There are 4 different generations that cycle. They are:
Prophet/Idealist
Normad/Reactive
Hero/Civic
Artist/Adaptive

People born in 1982-2001 are referred to as the Millennial Generation
We are part of the Hero/Civic generation that would change the world. We are also spending our adult lives in a Crisis.
With our parents being from the Boom generation (Reactive), we should already know that we are taught that crying is for babies.
During the Civic generations:
~Crime rates are at a local minimum
~People are "happier"
~SAT/ACT scores are at a local maz
~Education is more emphasized
~etc

Okay, so what if your parents weren't born here and do not fall into the Reactive (BOOM) generation?
You are still affected by people your age. Thus you will be dragged into the cycle.

To read more on this, wikipedia it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_(book)

Now to answer your question:
If those children are born around 2001-present (2001 plus or minus 2 years actually), they are now part of the silent generation. Most likely their parents are part of the Adaptive/Artist generation. The name implies alot. They aren't told to cry as vigorously as Reactives have learned.
The children (if born around the time specified) should be part of the Idealist/Prophet generation. The current ones are aka the Silent Generation. They aren't taught crying is for babies like the Civics and Reactives were.

Blah blah blah I rant too much

That is just one way to look at your issue though.


Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by hime197 on 2007-10-14 04:40:17
Thank you. This is probably the answer I've been looking for.

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by on 2007-10-15 00:34:05
Pretty much most kids are spoiled brats and have never and praobly will never work hard in their life. One huge problem today is you have immature adults trying to raise kids, and that just doesn't work. And you also have all this psyco babble BS about not yelling at kids or no hitting kids because "it'll damage them". BS! My parents hit me when I had it coming. You have parents now adays which don't displine their childern so the spoiled kids turn into spoiled teens, and the teens turn into spoiled and stupid adults and don't really know a damn thing about the real world.

"It's better to be used, then to be useless."

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by DeAngelus on 2007-10-15 01:25:57
I agree with Dark . And nice statement , SkyL . The childrens in my country who are born from the year 2000 and so on are all either rascals , lazy , over-pampered and imppish . Even that also , it was suprising that their parents would'nt bother about it and kept on pampering them and do not scold them at all for what they've done . I can call this new generation a spoiled generation .

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by on 2007-10-15 05:31:16
Lol there's a reason why it's called the Idealist/Prophet generation. XD


Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by hime197 on 2007-10-16 18:03:55
I can't blame them for being selfish; kids are always like that.

What I can't abide is the fact they pick on younger kids. They are so weak they have to torment someone smaller than them in order to feel superior.

As their surrogate older sister, I constantly tell them it's wrong. They try to listen to me, but they always seem to make the same mistake.

I really love those kids to death, yet sometimes I want to break their faces.

So much for the Hero/Civic and Prophet/Idealist generations coming to an understanding.

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by on 2007-10-16 20:00:32
~superlative statement Skyl

anyway i'd say that through my own observation, and confirmation of this by others (an old teacher from my junior high days whom i visit every few months), that todays youths are in general more pampered, less mature, and have a noticeably lower behavioural norm than my peers and i did at their age


Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by marzad on 2007-10-22 10:25:30
Bullying, arrogance? Crying, independance?

HO Ender!

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by sai on 2007-10-23 04:49:55
Regardless of the generations, there are always spoiled kids. Maybe we have more nowadays, because more people live in prosperity. That allows them to make their kids live as comfortable as possible, and they end up spoiling them too much. The result? Those little bastards...

Damn, i want to love kids! I love babies, but after a few years they tend to turn into jerks... Like hime197 said, i hate it when they act so arrogantly. Damn just looking at them acting so cocky pissed me off real bad. Hhhhh i feel really childish to be pissed off by a bunch of brats... -_- So i do my best to avoid them now... It'd be ridiculous if i end up kicking them in the face just because i lose my temper over those creatures >.<

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by on 2007-10-23 05:16:35
Respect is also lost with most kids youger then me. I remember when I first entered high school. I never tried to boss any older kids around cuz well duh, I'm the youngest. But by the time I was a senior these little pricks think that they are best and try and boss me around or worse (for them) try and pick fights with older kids.

"It's better to be used, then to be useless."

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by bdog1421 on 2007-11-20 14:10:17
I think that every person is raised differently, no matter what generation or lifestyle you come from. And as a young person, you are not expected to know how to do everything in life. I think once you get to the age that you understand what is going on around you, it is up to you to try and make yourself a well rounded person.

So as a young person, you were really independent... and it was hard, but it worked for you. The major thing was that as you grew up, you learned that it was ok to trust and depend some on others.

I think that your godparents children in time will have to learn for themselves that sometimes you have to be tough on your own, and cant depend on others all the time. It is going to be hard, but it is something that in some form or another everyone has to go through.

This is just what I believe.

"Life's simple. You make choices and you dont look back" "All that matters is knowing what you really want... and going after it"

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by Immortal on 2007-11-26 20:06:37
were kind of the same when it comes in dealing with our emotions. when I was a kid I always cry even at just some small things. an incident happened to me and I swear that I will never shed a tear no matter what happens in my life. I solve most of my problems without seeking the help of my friends. I feel like seeking help is a nuisance and is embarassing in my part. I still continue doing this and its slowly eating my sanity.

the kids these days are more knowledgeable than the kids in the past. technology had taken the kids time and interest in them. it may be a sign of good progress but there is also a bad part on it. the internet is a very wide world and also a dangerous place for kids to explore. games and entertainment are more violent that it can affect the minds of the children. media is also not an exemption. the result of these are more kids will be violent not just physically but emotionally.


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Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by jenwintan on 2009-12-05 04:13:16
To be independent... I... respect and admired you for being independent... When you are independent, you are able to do tings by yourselves, without people worrying. People trust you. When you are independent, your thinking would be more mature.Being a spoiled brat is quite fun... But... you'll face the consequences...Crying in the public is REALLY embarrassing. But, if you really can't hold it... just cry... Though people may look at you as one of a kind curiously...But it'll be much better crying than suppressing the feeling. You miss 7 years of spoiled brat life and gain 7 years to learn to be independent.

Re: Is there a Difference in 7 Years?
Link | by Tsu on 2009-12-14 01:43:39
First of all, I think that this thread is really awesome. xD

"Was it wrong for me to grow up independent? Or, is it this generation's children who have grown too sheltered?"

It is never wrong to learn independence early in their lives. Although it may seem hard for some, the hardships that one undergoes will be beneficial to them once they have grown up to adults. How a child was raised determines his personality and attitude towards the events that he faces in his everyday life.

To be honest, I'm kind of pissed at people who are such spoiled brats. They have everything, all those game consoles and other gadgets. They may seem like they're ready for whatever might come, but in truth, they're fish food in a tank full of piranhas. I also hate adults who have all the money in the world to give their children but don't know crap about how to really raise their children. I mean yeah, it's natural for parents to be protective of their children, but they should know when to stop spoiling their children.

I believe that it is this generation's children that have grown too sheltered and the past generation's parents' fault that they have spoiled their children too much for them to grow into spoiled brats.

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