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Do you approve of cloning?
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on 2007-09-11 05:37:15 (edited 2007-09-11 05:37:41)
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Science has its wonders and horrors. What would you consider cloning to be? Do you think that it should be legalised? What of the various disputes that have arisen due to the contorversies as to whether cloning is a form a reproduction? Do you think that cloning can be considered a form of evolution? Does it contradict with the Neo-Darwinism Theory of Evolution? Ask yourself these and have fun! ^^  |
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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on 2007-09-11 10:02:19 (edited 2007-09-11 10:02:30)
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First off, let me point out that the Singaporean school system is not setup to teach the truth. It is a machine for brainwashing and filling youth with nonsensical rhetoric, and this thread is a perfect example. I will combat this rubbish the best I can: Hmm, that's a loaded sentence, that first one there. I'd say, science contains only wonders. Technology can be used in horrible ways, but don't blame that on the scientific method. Cloning, in principal, is nothing new or unusual. Most of the living creatures on earth (that would be bacteria, by number) reproduce by cloning. It has been common practice for years to reproduce plants we like by cloning. Cloning, in principal, is not directly harmful. Evolution, as classically understood, is genetic change in a population. When we clone a certain lineage of fruit tree (in this case, grafting), we artificially select for a certain genes that are desirable. This effects the gene pool in the population of the entire plant species as a whole. So, technically, this artificial selection by cloning does change these genes in the population, and thus is an evolutionary vector. However, cloning alone cannot, by definition, produce genetic changes in the individual, such as new genes or alleles. In response to your last question: what the fuck are you talking about? By Neo-Darwinism, I assume you mean the application of Genetics to Darwin's theory on the Origin of Species. So, in other words, do you think that artificial selection contradicts genetics? No, that's a stupid fucking question. You just wanted to use big words. Cut it out. 
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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on 2007-09-11 13:29:41 |
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Guess Gendou doesn't like showoffs >.>; Anyways, cloning, in the sciences, is basically the same as creating another life. With that, you'll get into a whole mess of things. The topic itself is too broad.  |
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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cloning doesn't really bother me too much, it is a useful tool in agriculture and an interesting subject to explore in science, the only thing i don't support would be human cloning.  |
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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on 2007-09-12 02:46:53 |
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haha.. i agree.. no human cloning.. it has ethical issues involved.. and would probably be in conflict with some religious issues too. |
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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by Mystic Deadman
on 2007-09-12 15:28:57
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The problem with cloning is that it holds too many ethical issues. Mostly concerning the artificial creation of life. Religious members of society will find something like this unacceptable because they feel that the powers that be should be the only powers that create life, not the powers of humans. Scientifically, in my opinion, the main issue would be: to what extent are you cloning? The issue with cloning an entire organism is that any genetic defects that occur within the original can also be replicated. I think, since I haven't been keeping track of advancements in scientific study and genetics, scientists may be able to modify the genetic defects. Gendou, please correct me if I'm wrong. However, cloning parts of living creatures can allow more detailed studies of diseases, and can save lives, if used in such a manner. Cloning is what you make of it. You should ask yourself, "do I have a problem with cloning?" If so, why. If not, then just move on. |
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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on 2007-09-12 19:50:54 |
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I'm fine with cloning as long as we don't start cloning humans because there are already way too many of us. I think cloning is legalised...but only for like plants and livestock...i think... 
So I drove into a parking lot one time and saw this person pull into a handicap parking spot. When you think handicap, you think wheelchair and whatever, right? So it just ticked me off when I saw the guy come out of the car perfectly fine. So then I ran him over. |
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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on 2007-09-14 01:40:48 (edited 2007-09-14 01:41:23)
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I have no problem with human cloning. It would help the furthering of science. All relgious nuts say it's us playing god and we shouldn't cross that line but consider this.....If God didn't want us to cross that line why would he make us smart enough to? Why would you not want to help us continue with the evolution of mankind? Who knows what we will discover if we continue this?  
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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on 2007-09-14 06:17:29 |
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Would'nt it seem weird if there are two of a same person walking together? O.o |
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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on 2007-09-14 13:34:00 |
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No. I know it's the same person, but think of it more like their twin.
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Re: Do you approve of cloning?
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on 2007-09-24 20:18:18 |
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Jesus H Christ. Where do you people COME from? The 1600's? cloning ... is basically the same as creating another life. Yeah, so is having sex and getting your bitch pregnant. Do you approve of that? So is in-vitro fertilization, which is universally accepted as perfectly ethical. Would'nt it seem weird if there are two of a same person walking together? What, twins? Twins exist in nature. They are genetically identical. If God didn't want us to cross that line why would he make us smart enough to? This is a poor argument. We are "smart" enough to create nukes, does that means we should use them? Of course not. We have to make decisions based on more than our capabilities. In any case, God is a delusion. The only ones to to judge our decisions as a generation will be our children, and their children, and so on. Think about it. If, 20 years from now, a no medicine is around to save your life when YOU grow old and get cancer, but the medicine WOULD have been developed if human stem cell research was allowed to be pursued freely, how would you feel?
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